European PS3 Launch Delayed To March 2007 [Update 1]

57 Responses

1. gen3

   September 6th, 2006 at 11:55 am

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   God damn it! This is devastating for me, I have pre-ordered a console in Germany!

2. John frew

   September 6th, 2006 at 1:18 pm

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   Jap 1st
   US 2nd
   Outer Mongolia 3rd
   Europe 4th

   … this is the way its has allways been with the big Japanees compaines…

   were still paying nearly double what the rest of the world is paying for Ps2’s…

3. John frew

   September 6th, 2006 at 1:21 pm

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   Oh, my reaction… dont buy. Micro$oft may be a global bully, but their console is cheap, fast and with the release of the classix range, has cheap games to.

4. Shaka

   September 6th, 2006 at 2:29 pm

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   This is good if you dont wait you will dance with the ugly chick in this case(xbox 360 and wii are very ugly chicks) now its all good no rushed crap like the xbox were you have to buy an extra intercooler just to play the games. this is going to do nothing.

   good think i like in the USA and i will have mine november 17 2k6.

5. John frew

   September 6th, 2006 at 3:12 pm

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   good think i like in the USA and i will have mine november 17 2k6.

   Enjoy having no garantee, having to convert the power supply and possible region only games not working as well… :p

6. Shaka

   September 6th, 2006 at 6:14 pm

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   Those are nothing but false rumors john my PS3 will be perfect fine and it comes with a full one year guarranty right out of the box.

7. Kaiser Soze

   September 6th, 2006 at 9:36 pm

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   Shaka: What galaxy do you live in? And tell me honestly, how old are you?

8. Shaka

   September 6th, 2006 at 11:19 pm

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   Kaiser i dont know what my age has to do with this subect.

   ‘ ‘ Shaka: What galaxy do you live in? ‘ ‘

   so whats this supposed to mean. its a fact all Sony products comes with atleast one full year warranty out of the box.

9. Kaiser Soze

   September 7th, 2006 at 8:52 am

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   Well Shaka, I think both questions are relevant. To start with, reading your posts on other topics as well, your word of choise don’t seem very mature. Actually, a lot of your posts are completely lame. Second. You dont seem to know a whole lot on computer gaming history. Third. And then all fanboys have some sort of point where they face reality, and dont just LOVE everything Sony does, and HATES everything else does. You seem to live in a very small world. Definetely not earth. And seriously; this is my last post. Cause I’m not wasting anymore time debating facts with 13 year old puperty boys who dont WANT to face reality

10. Da Madd Gamer

    September 7th, 2006 at 10:36 pm

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    Dang, Kaiser! You don’t wanna traumatize the kid, do ya? Honestly though, Shaka, how old are you? lol..

11. Flame sucks

    September 7th, 2006 at 10:54 pm

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    I too am curious…

    But hey Shaka

    Do you like Nintendo more or Microsoft more?

12. Shaka

    September 8th, 2006 at 2:57 am

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    I dont care for brand i just go with the one that has the best experience when it comes to gaming thats why i love Nvidia way better then crap ati and PlayStation just destroys his competition in everyway.and im not 13 i wish ,im old enough to drive and almost even old enough to legally drink so i know what i talk.

    i only speaks nothing but the facts nothing mor,its never based on any brand.

13. Madd Gamer

    September 11th, 2006 at 11:50 pm

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    a fanboy’s fanboy quote: I dont’ pay attention to brand name. I just buy whatever says ‘Sony.’

14. Shaka

    September 12th, 2006 at 6:03 am

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    Again this is never aboud brand i only support the best and Sony right now its the best no questions asked!

15. grandmarquee1

    September 13th, 2006 at 9:13 pm

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    “Again this is never aboud brand i only support the best and Sony right now its the best no questions asked!”

    too bad this time around Sony has the worst controller. Have fun with your laggy motion detection and no rumble.

    Also Sony is not the best when it comes to certain things, for one thing sony does not do a good job of shooters. any serious console shooter gamer (excludes PC) knows u can not play shooters where u have ur thumbs on the same axis.

16. Shaka

    September 14th, 2006 at 6:30 am

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    No, the Dual Shock is the most comfortable controler ever build.
    i dont care about rumble i dont care about motion sencing either to be honest if i want motion sencing i buy an EyeToy.

    Good thing the PS3 supports K&M for shooters, when it comes to FPS nothing beats a K&M so cant wait.

    PS3 is going to be the best.

17. Marquee

    September 14th, 2006 at 12:16 pm

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    Shaka ur such a fanboi it makes me sick. Honestly when was the last time u ever played with no rumble, it’s like playing with a playschool toy.

    “Good thing the PS3 supports K&M for shooters, when it comes to FPS nothing beats a K&M so cant wait.”

    umm ok sure so u have a desk in front of your big screen? Or are u just not thinking again?

    Also k&m is great for shooters (thats y I excluded it. its done on pc. just not good for a console. I had a k&m on my orgininal xbox and it just wasn’t feasable, that shit is only useful in MMO’s, just for typing) to bad sony doesn’t do shooters to good, xbox pisses on sony in that department. Honestly if xbox can get there hands on some good turn based rpg’s there would be no reason to own a ps3.

    done and done.

18. Shaka

    September 14th, 2006 at 5:40 pm

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    I always turn off the rumble in games its really annoying.
    it was kool back in the 90’s when even they were selling Resident Evil dual shock version.

    but now it sucks nobody cares about it anymore it only adds useless weight to the controler. rumble is over rated!

19. Marquee

    September 14th, 2006 at 5:48 pm

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    do me a favor shaka set-up a forum somewhere with a poll perfer rumble on or off, I would bet that not many people think your way. I guess going back to 8 bit console ways is better right? (innovation at it’s best)

20. Shaka

    September 14th, 2006 at 6:32 pm

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    innovation is overated.

    gimmicks thats captures your moments dont = innovation.

    rumble is annoying i dont care for it and people will forget about it in no time.

21. Marquee

    September 14th, 2006 at 6:58 pm

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    shaka ur an idiot seriously u truly are. btw “gimmicks thats captures your moments dont = innovation” why the hell is SONY doing a poor rip off of this?

22. Shaka

    September 14th, 2006 at 7:17 pm

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    the montiong sencing in the PS3 dual shock is based on the EyeToy.

    the EyeToy the 1st technology to capture your moments in gaming came out in 2003.

    the tv remote with eyetoy tehcnology announced on the wii 2005.

    2006 microsoft a anounced a video camera for the xbox 360.

    Sony makes them everybody copys them.

    all facts!

23. Marquee

    September 17th, 2006 at 5:12 pm

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    dude are u kidding me? I was playing shit like this in 98 with my PC and a webcam. You really don’t know ur histroy do u?

24. Marquee

    September 17th, 2006 at 5:14 pm

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    Oh yeah btw u can’t call it the PS3 dual shock since it doesn’t have rumble. It’s know as the sixaxis which really should be spelled sixaxes (plural.)

25. Shaka

    September 17th, 2006 at 11:12 pm

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    Any one with an open mind can see the webcam for the xbox 360 is a complete rip off of the EyeToy. ofcourse without zero inovation.

    EyeToy=Real innovation in games. for your choice. ( this isnt nintendo forcing game devs to move games with a gimmick)

    camera for xbox 360= complete rip off of the webcam for PC that has been around since the mid 90’s.

26. Emerald

    September 17th, 2006 at 11:24 pm

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    “Any one with an open mind can see the webcam for the xbox 360 is a complete rip off of the EyeToy. ofcourse without zero inovation.”
    Yes. Because the EyeToy wasn’t a utter rip off of a webcam either.
    Honestly. >_>

    “EyeToy=Real innovation in games. for your choice. ( this isnt nintendo forcing game devs to move games with a gimmick)”
    Yeah, because we know that SO MANY third parties have made games for the EyeToy. Oh wait. They haven’t.
    It’s not like the EyeToy is anything special, motion-capture games have been here for a lonnnng time. Sony doesn’t innovate, it replicates.
    The Wiimote, on the other hand, does somthing that’s never been done before with gaming.

    “camera for xbox 360= complete rip off of the webcam for PC that has been around since the mid 90’s.”
    As is the Eyetoy.

27. Shaka

    September 18th, 2006 at 2:26 am

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    ‘ ‘ special, motion-capture games have been here for a lonnnng time. ‘ ‘

    Yeah this we agree, this is why i dont think nintendo should be getting all this hype when they are using very old technology and making lots of money out of it.

    rip-off.

28. Emerald

    September 18th, 2006 at 3:32 am

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    “‘ Yeah this we agree, this is why i dont think nintendo should be getting all this hype when they are using very old technology and making lots of money out of it.rip-off.”
    Really? Because the Wii uses NEW technology, whereas the EyeToy is much more primitive. Motion sensing technology is more advanced and accurate than motion capturing /w a webcam.

29. Shaka

    September 18th, 2006 at 5:31 am

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    the Eyetoy idead is way better i mean there you can pretty much use your whole body and the cam will capture.

    while the wii is only limited to the moments of your arms.

    with the EyeToy if you kick is has effect in the game.

    with the wee if you kick is has zero response.

    so there the EyeToy is way better then the wii gimmick.

30. Emerald

    September 18th, 2006 at 5:42 am

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    “the Eyetoy idead is way better i mean there you can pretty much use your whole body and the cam will capture.”
    Yes but it’s also innacurate, based on the amount of light available,tiring, and is anything else is in the shot with you, you’re screwed. The Wii, however, is much MUCH more accurate, not nearly as tiring, and not a gimmicky add on that lacks support. The Eyetoy also CANNOT detect tilt, so it is limited to 2D movement. The Wii, however, can detect 3D movement.

    “while the wii is only limited to the moments of your arms.
    with the EyeToy if you kick is has effect in the game.with the wii if you kick is has zero response.”
    Not if you kick too fast, too slow, or your pants are a certian color.
    The Wii can detect any movement to wherever it is- So if you fasten to to your leg, it can detect wherever you go, whereas the Eyetoy can only detect things on a 3d plane.

    “so there the EyeToy is way better then the wii gimmick. ”
    No, I’m quite afraid that unlike the EyeToy gimmick, the Wii has much more developer support, 3D movement, full-fledged games rather than a series of short ones, and expansion for whatever ideas developers can come up with.

31. Shaka

    September 18th, 2006 at 6:21 am

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    the EyeToy for the PS2 was a new experience the best gimmick the gaming has ever seen, it was an experiment in a way and that eventually lead to E3 2k6 when they desided to put that into the PS3 pad ( optional ).

    and so is the gimmick for the wii just an experiment just like the nintendo power glove, just like the nintendo virtual boy.

    they all failed and the gimmick for the wii will fail its past technology and at this stage it was way to late for that.

32. Emerald

    September 18th, 2006 at 5:43 pm

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    “the EyeToy for the PS2 was a new experience the best gimmick the gaming has ever seen, it was an experiment in a way and that eventually lead to E3 2k6 when they desided to put that into the PS3 pad ( optional ).”
    XD Oh shaka. The EyeToy was NOT well recieved by the gaming community, with low sales and bad reviews.
    Also, the technology in the PS3’s controller Does NOT USE A WEB CAM, so it does not use the EyeToy technology. Instead’ the PS3’s controller’s motion sensing is a primitive and tacked-on feature which isn’t nearly as accurate as the Wiimote.

    “and so is the gimmick for the wii just an experiment just like the nintendo power glove, just like the nintendo virtual boy.”
    Wrong. The Wii, unlike the other two, hav been previewed to the press- ANd with good results. Need I list Sony’s blunders in gaming?

    “they all failed and the gimmick for the wii will fail its past technology and at this stage it was way to late for that.
    XD Past technology? The only thing that’s past tehnology is the PS3’s motion sensing. It got rid of it’s rumble, and for sub-par motion sensing.
    Plus, the Wii already has a installed fanbase, complete with good press.

33. Shaka

    September 18th, 2006 at 10:27 pm

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    Yeah that gimmick isnt going to work in the long run, nintendo will have big problems with this thing.

34. Shaka

    September 18th, 2006 at 10:55 pm

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    Yeah theres millions of nintendo fanboys around the world.
    just check any internet forum they are even in the xbox and PS forums its crazy. they overun the internet! and yeah the blogs 2.

35. Shaka

    September 18th, 2006 at 11:03 pm

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    No no the PS owner’s are just casual gamers. that dont have fun playing games beacuase they dont know what games are the best you know playing Madden and the likes.

36. Emerald

    September 18th, 2006 at 11:14 pm

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    “lesson 1: the system is not yet released, you cannot judge it yet, nor it’s games.”
    I can if I went to E3, which I DID. >_>
    “lesson 2: press = not gamers/consumer market, press = press with press opinions which can widely differ from actual paying people.”
    Yes, because the gaming press, which REVIEW games and PLAY them are not actual gamers. Of course, why didn’t I draw that brilliant conclusion earlyer?
    “lesson 3: the internet = not the world. From the people that actually buy these consoles, I think only a margin reads these fora. How many hits would sites like gamespot or ign have in a year? a few million at best? How many console gamers are there? at least 400 million. Just to give you an impression of the meaninglessness of your argument.”
    Now how many of those gamers DO NOT have internet connections? I think the latest study showed about 2% or so.

    “Wii fanbase > ps3 fanbase? Choose your answer with thought. ”
    I have. With Sony’s recent “marketing” of sorts, I wont be surprised if the Wii fanbase has grown.

37. Emerald

    September 19th, 2006 at 3:05 am

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    “The system is not yet released, in E3 u saw beta’s, no you can’t. and sony had a very small lineup at E3 and nothing playable, no you can’t.”
    You can, of course, base somthing off of a game that was GOOD in the Beta stage, but if it is BAD in the Beta stage you can’t, because it’s Beta.
    The fact that the PS3 had nothing playable is a bad sign in itself

    “Press is indeed not gamers, so often the big gaming sites give high scores for games that are no commercial succes, or the other way around. The mere fact that I need to point this out, is proof I’m talking to someone deluded.”
    There mere fact that I need to point out that the TREND is that high scores=Better sales to someone is proof I’m talking to someone deluded.

    “That someone has an internetc onnection, doesnt mean it reads things on the internet, and no, your percentage is way off, please post a link of your latest study.”
    http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3162927

    “I’m getting kind of tired rehashing my undisputable arguments with your weird fanboyish rethorics. I think it is time to say: may the best console win. But in that case you won’t agree with me again, because you will probably shout something as farfetched as: gamecube was better then playstation2 and N64 owned ps1.”
    Yes, your so-called undisputable that are so easily countered by me, and logic in general.
    Because “better” is a matter of opinion, I can indeed say that the GameCube was better than the PS2 if I so wished.

    “Ofcourse it has, and so will Wii own playstation 3. The most powerful console ever made.”
    So when does the most POWERFUL console beat the others? Need I explain the PS2 Vs the XBox/GameCube, and SNES Vs. Genisis?

    “Sweet dreams. ”
    Why yes, for the PS3 that is.

38. Emerald

    September 20th, 2006 at 12:51 am

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    shaka’s first, so I can counter opinion with opinion.

    “the wii at 1st its going to do good i meam just the millions of fanboys around the world, who somehow find a way top fit in with his internet buddies by saying they are going to buy a wii, just like the fool next door.”
    If the message boards are in

    “in the long run wont sell as much, they are alot more people out there with good jobs and that do have HD-TV’S and want the best theres out there.”
    The “best” as in best gameplay, so yes, the Wii. Oh, and do you know that it’s estimated that less than %10 of people have an HDTV?

    “normal people dont buy the cheapest product they buy the best, they want the best”
    This is why they’ll but the Wii.

    “and its clear the Sony PS3 is the one that will offer the best technology at the best price.”
    But not the best games, sadly.

    “not to mention it has the PS1 and PS2 which both sold more then 100 million world wide, making record sales never made by anybody else. the same people who bought a PS2 will eventually buy a PS3. ”
    Not true. I bought a PS2. Many people I know bouth a PS2 that won’t buy a PS3 because of its crazy high price.

    Lol, pre order is always filled. You need to check the amounts in 2 years time. This isnt represented.

    “Your link doesnt work, I assume this was intended as an empty boast?

39. Shaka

    September 20th, 2006 at 12:57 am

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    wii is not the best its the worst, it has a terrible price,terrible name, gimmick games with game cube graphics and no online play.

    its very pricey for what you get, normal people will not like to know nintendo is making tons of money out of 90’s technology.

40. Emerald

    September 20th, 2006 at 1:01 am

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    “wii is not the best its the worst, it has a terrible price,terrible name, gimmick games with game cube graphics and no online play.”
    DO YOUR RESEARCH, It has free online play. The name is catchy, and it does get people intrested in the console.
    Plus, the price is the cheapest of the Next-Gen consoles, and the gamecube’s graphics were better than the PS2s, and so a improved GameCube at it’s max would be gorgious.

    Shaka, you should stop argueing about graphics. Graphics=/=everything/Gameplay.

    “its very pricey for what you get, normal people will not like to know Sony is making tons of money out of 90’s technology. ”
    Fixed.

41. Shaka

    September 20th, 2006 at 1:09 am

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    Graphics are very important maybe more important then game play actually.

    whe mags rate game they rate it based on the graphics too, gameplay is overated.

    graphics always need to look beautifull.

    if graphics arent everything then how come companies like Nvidia and ati make millions at year selling GPU’s at very high prices to make your PC games look beautifull on your Pc.

    graphics are one of the most important things in any game.

42. Emerald

    September 20th, 2006 at 1:31 am

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    “Craphics are very important maybe more important then game play actually.”
    LOL! If that isn’t the most retarded thing I’ve ever heard…
    Gameplay>>>Graphics.

    “whe mags rate game they rate it based on the graphics too, gameplay is overated.”
    But it’s still mostly on GAMPLAY, the reson people play GAMES- Or else you’re just watching a movie.

    “graphics always need to look beautifull.”
    Yes, but they can do that on a Wii with good Art Direction.

    “if graphics arent everything then how come companies like Nvidia and ati make millions at year selling GPU’s at very high prices to make your PC games look beautifull on your Pc.”
    Because the lastest games require them to run better, and you want to be able to PLAY games on a computer.

    “graphics are one of the most important things in any game. ”
    1st. Gameplay.
    2nd. Control
    3rd. Art Direction
    4th.Graphics

    Graphic’s aren’t a pressing concern to make a good game. Katamari Damacy kicked butt- It’s graphics were crap(Art Directin good, BTW).

43. Shaka

    September 20th, 2006 at 2:06 am

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    Games like Katamari Damacy and Loco Roco are the exception beacuase they are games ment to be dumb and fun at the same time.

    games that are kool to play for a couple of hours and yeah they are very addicting at 1st but like tetris and pacman, this games will never replace the best games out there with top notch graphics,story line,gameplay,physics ect.

44. Emerald

    September 20th, 2006 at 2:09 am

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    “Games like Katamari Damacy and Loco Roco are the exception beacuase they are games ment to be dumb and fun at the same time”
    There are no execptions, because to your argument, Graphics>Gamplay. So those games, according to you, suck.
    Besides, they were developed SERIOUSLY, because they have good GAMEPLAY.

    “games that are kool to play for a couple of hours and yeah they are very addicting at 1st but like tetris and pacman, this games will never replace the best games out there with top notch graphics,story line,gameplay,physics ect.”
    Better graphics=/=better games.

45. Shaka

    September 20th, 2006 at 7:37 pm

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    They dont have good game play its just that they are dumb games that everybody can play people who dont play video games.

46. Shaka

    September 21st, 2006 at 9:50 pm

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    ‘ ‘ I bet he says this when he found out the Wii had a crap cpu ‘ ‘

    Hehehehe ofcourse he did.

    remenber the nintendo fanboys raving about the RE4 version of gc being better then the PS2 version and it had better graphics this and that crap.

    and now WOW! graphics dont matter anymore hahahaha the irony.

47. Emerald

    September 22nd, 2006 at 10:43 pm

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    ” bet he says this when he found out the Wii had a crap cpu ;)”
    I found this out about when-I-Started-To-Play-Games years ago. >_>

    “BTW, if this is the case, then why the hell are you saving up for a new console? The real gameplay in games was made 1-2 decennia ago. But I am probably talking jibberish again. ”
    Indeed you are.

    “remenber the nintendo fanboys raving about the RE4 version of gc being better then the PS2 version and it had better graphics this and that crap.”
    No. Source? That’s right, because YOU DON’T HAVE SOURCES. YOU HAVE BILE SPEWN FROM YOUR MOUTH.

    “and now WOW! graphics dont matter anymore hahahaha the irony.”
    They never did. RE4 was a incredible game, however.

48. Shaka

    September 25th, 2006 at 2:30 am

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    RE4 on progressive scan mode on PS2 look like the gears of wars ingame vids i have seen. its that good.

49. Emerald

    September 26th, 2006 at 1:09 am

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    “Watch out shaka, he’s using the caps lock key again”
    Oh wow. I’M USING CAPS TO EXPRESS ANGER? DOES THIS ANNOY YOU?

    “Do you want him to get a nervous brake down? act responsible. Stop pointing out to him that the wii isn’t a graphical miracle (just look at the vid feeds whheeh), and is more a system for a .. younger audience.”
    Oh yes, I’m gong to have anevrious breakdown because of the amazing games and controls. Oh, the horror.
    Need I also mention the boarder audiance that the Wii is trying to get? It’s not like Brain age sold 2,322,970 copies as of June 11th AT ALL.

    But I’m afraid you two are going to have a nervious breakdown when you’re in massive debt from the PS3.

50. Shaka

    September 28th, 2006 at 1:36 am

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    Brain age is like 10$ and thats some patehtic game if you think innovation is games is some stupid math problems this is not even gaming, pls.

    nintendo’s hand held monopoly is what keeps they alive in the hand held right now.

    look intesresting read about this situation.

    http://thewiikly.zogdog.com/article.php?article=42&ed=4&p=1

51. Emerald

    September 28th, 2006 at 4:27 am

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    “Brain age is like 10$ and thats some patehtic game if you think innovation is games is some stupid math problems this is not even gaming, pls.”
    Yet it’s sold better than any other game currently on the market, and the reviews are great.
    It does somthing that no other game has done before, and makes it fun, no less.

    “nintendo’s hand held monopoly is what keeps they alive in the hand held right now.”
    Oh please. Read the article.

    The link you posted works against you in so many ways.
    Not to mention it attacks Sony at it’s weak for MASSIVE DAMAGE!

52. Shaka

    September 28th, 2006 at 9:28 am

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    dS succeeded because Nintendo dominates the handheld market

    The DS’s success is due to Nintendo’s consistent dominance in the handheld sphere, not because of its inclusion of the touch screen. New Super Mario Brothers isn’t successful because it has two screens — it’s successful because it’s a new Mario game.

    mario is still alive thanks to his hand held monopoly andf his millions of fanboys around the world.

53. Emerald

    September 28th, 2006 at 10:27 pm

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    “dS succeeded because Nintendo dominates the handheld market”
    Yet the article you posted says, and proves that it isn’t true.
    Owned by your own source.

    “The DS’s success is due to Nintendo’s consistent dominance in the handheld sphere, not because of its inclusion of the touch screen.”
    Again, see the article.

    “New Super Mario Brothers isn’t successful because it has two screens — it’s successful because it’s a new Mario game.”
    But that game also happens to be a good game. First 2D mario in a decade, and they do it well.

    “Mario is still alive thanks to his constantly great games and the people who buy them.”
    Fixed.

54. Emerald

    September 29th, 2006 at 11:21 pm

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    The gameplay, however, is far from being kiddy.

55. Cony

    October 13th, 2006 at 4:35 am

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    NO ploblem.
    I import PS3 from Japan.
    The order can have been done here.
    http://www.play-asia.com/SOap-23-83-3cg5-71-bo-49-en-84-j-70-p62.html

56. Mr.Static

    October 25th, 2006 at 6:18 pm

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    Playstation 3 is going to rock!
    All other who says something else can s*ck my di*k!

    I think Ps3 is going to be great and all you below age 15 does not know what you are taking about…

57. Wii

    December 8th, 2006 at 7:48 am

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    What are you people stupid? The powerglove used motion technology, House of the Dead arcade used motion technology, for crying out loud Duck Hunt came out 20 years ago and it too use motion technology. Look this wiimote is nothing new or “innovative” if it was NEW did don’t you think it would cost a lot more then $250. I mean most new technology when they first hit the market is very expensive, and yet Nintendo seems to manufacture their system for less then $175. That’s because the motion technology is at least 20 years old. Go to YOUTUBE.com, people have been replacing their sensory bars with candles and ordinary TV remotes!! People tend to give Nintendo all sorts of credit for pumping out one gimmick after gimmick which none changed the way we play games. Did that powergolve or light gun used in duck hunt catch on? Sure there are tons of arcades that have them but do you have one in your home? Is it so wrong to build technology that would push the limits of the games we play (cell processor), is it so much to have pretty images and sounds (yes I am a graphics whore) Next generations means new technology not stuff that has been seen for decades.