PS3 To Use Xfire For Online Service

September 12th, 2006 by Darren Stevens in Business, Multiplayer, Online, Software, Technology, Xbox360

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Sony’s answer to Xbox Live has been revealed; it’s Xfire, the popular chat and games client used by many PC gamers. Sony will have their own version of Xfire running on the PlayStation Network Platform (PNP).

The news came during the Viacom (who bought Xfire back in April) 2006 Earnings Conference Call, a transcript from the event can be found here,

Xfire just signed a deal with Sony to create a version of their platform for the new PS3, which will now enable Xfire to extend its reach further into the huge console gaming market.

I don’t know if this is the first “good” PS3 news for a long time. In a way, one would expect Sony to have something original with the PS3 online service, not a piece of licensed software (although Xfire is pretty good).

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118 Responses to “PS3 To Use Xfire For Online Service”

  1. StMadnes Says:

    “I don’t know if this is the first “good

  2. Armin Siljkovic Says:

    I am disappointed that Sony couldn’t some up with something original that could really take advantage of the PS3 and its online capabilities.

    Xfire is made for PCs, and by signing a deal a few months before the PS3 launch, there’s not gonna be much time for Sony to correctly implement the service for the PS3. It’s essentially a “port” of PC software to the PS3.

    That doesn’t mean it wouldn’t challenge Xbox Live, most of PS3 online stuff will be free, which is a big plus regardless of the software it runs on.

  3. Bill Says:

    This deal has been in place since february

    http://money.cnn.com/2006/02/17/technology/
    fastforward_fortune/index.htm

    you wiitards are sad.

  4. Armin Siljkovic Says:

    Bill: Sony has been testing out different types of software for a while now, Xfire was one of them. There was no “deal” until now.

  5. Shaka Says:

    ‘ ‘ I don’t know if this is the first “good

  6. dominant Says:

    i’m a big sony person, i have sony tv’s, a psp, ps2, digital camera, camcorder etc… but honestly, i think they are making some huge mistakes with the ps3. they are so arrogant about it, that they will no doubt overlook something that is going to turn out really bad for them. almost reminds of the tortoise and the hare story.

    i also think it is a cop out on sony’s part to steal the 360’s acheivements idea, and to start incorporating 3rd party software for their online service…?!?! obviously they don’t have the capacity to come up with their own unique ideas to differ from other console systems.

    plus i think they are making a huge gamble by forcing consumers to buy the ps3 w/ blu-ray. should this technology fail (as they have with every other format they’ve tried) you are going to be really disappointed you paid top dollar for a technology that hasn’t even proven itself yet.

  7. Shaka Says:

    Trashing Sony on online blogs is the new “cool” thing to do online. They’re rebelling against the man, man!
    right armin.

  8. Madd Gamer Says:

    (raising right fist in the air) Sony Fanboy Power!! Followers of the Nintendo crusade shall bow down and repent come November 17th. For all of you non-believers out there, eat this:

    http://genmay.com/showthread.php?t=667429

  9. Zac Says:

    “I don’t know if this is the first “good

  10. Zac Says:

    “Trashing Sony on online blogs is the new “cool

  11. Kaiser Soze Says:

    Hey Mad Gamer. Nice article. Although the whole thing about UMD movies made me chuckle a bit. But else, cool. Although if they want to earn the money back from those horrible expensive games, they will have to manufacture some more PS3

  12. Soren Says:

    Zac: “Armin”, as “Armin” the author/editor… (He’s the admin too so it makes little difference :) )

  13. Zac Says:

    hehe thanks, I wasn’t aware :)

  14. Shaka Says:

    This is kinda my point people on the internet treath Sony like if it was hitler. i never been about brand. its kinda obiovius as a man who has open mind quickly can cach all this hating to Sony on the popular blogs.

    Sony announces something good like this and then the bloggers find a way to make it seem bad. this is why i kinda go with Sony on this new generation its the real underdog here.

    i mean i dont see anybody saying nothing bad about nintendo beacuase it will not play online games on the wii until next year.

    so all eyes on Sony when ever it does something good or bad, the bloggers like armin ^^^^ like to hate on Sony beacuase its the new kool thing.

  15. Madd Gamer Says:

    Yeah, Kaiser, I kinda squinted my eyebrows at the UMD thing too. But if it’s true about how Sony let the movie companies determine the packaging/price/features etc for the UMDs, then I’d say that was a bad move on Sony’s part- giving up to much control to the movie companies. However, if they’re palnning on shipping much less expensive UMDs with features comparable to their DVD counter parts, perhaps there may be a chance that the UMD might-just might- receive some sort of clemency.

    My thing is that i can’t wait to see how the PSP and the PS3 work together. The idea of the PSP working as remote control with and extra screen for the PS3 sounds cool (Nintendogs can’t say Sony stole that idea). And with 200 new PSP titles coming out by this Christmas.. All those games? You can’t tell me that they’re ALL going to suck. Just start saving your money if you haven’t already begun to. Because I predict that the PSP and the PS3 is going to be a serious tag team come this November! A what??? A monstrous tag team! Now wipe the sweat off of your fore head, Nintendo fanboy!

  16. Madd Gamer Says:

    Oh, i almosst forgot..
    (raising right fist in the air) Sony Fanboy Power!!

  17. Zac Says:

    shaka you’re one of the most close-minded people i’ve… read.

    and you seem pretty anti-Nintendo/pro sony … i’m only judging by every single thing you’ve ever wrote on this blog.

  18. Shaka Says:

    Nah i only like the best and Sony offers the best.
    Fact.

  19. Zac Says:

    What if you bought a ps3 and it sucked?

  20. Shaka Says:

    Impossible, looking at my previoust experience with PlayStation products you will always get the best when you get a PS.

    get a wii to play marios with a gimmick ? no thanks.
    get a xbox 360 to play 1000 FPS ? no thanks.

    Get PS3 to play the best games.

  21. Zac Says:

    get ps3 to play racing games? no thanks

  22. Shaka Says:

    The PS3 is the only one that you can expect New originals games for it.

    does the wii have any originals games for it ?? No!
    does microsoft do anything better then FPS (”looking at the new big hitter”) gears of war yet another FPS ?No.

  23. Zac Says:

    “The PS3 is the only one that you can expect New originals games for it.”

    haha you’re an idiot.

    why don’t you post a LINK and PROOVE all these “facts”?

  24. Kaiser Soze Says:

    Hey Zac. You cant argue with Shaka, because he only speaks the TRUTH. No guessing here.

    “does the wii have any originals games for it ?? No!”

    True. Not one single new franchise to the Wii

    “i never been about brand.”

    Again, the truth. What are we doing, all of us idiots who fools ourselves with restricting to only one brand?

    “its kinda obiovius as a man who has open mind quickly can cach all this hating to Sony on the popular blogs.”

    If just everybody was as generous as you Shaka

    “Classic’s are classic’s but they are old i will spend most of my time playing the new stuff ,why replay the same thing over and over sounds like a waste of time to me.”

    Waste of time! You are so right. Playing a game the second time is waste of time. I know that you are the only one who only plays a game once, and therefore the best role model a gamer could have

    “the name wii just want them to sound kool”

    Yes Shaka. They left the kiddie name Revolution to a much more cool and mature name

    “This is good news i mean just some minor problems with Blu-Ray after all its the latest technology which ic far better then hd-dvd.”

    The truth of all truths, just minor problems. Downgrading shipments from what? 4 millions to 500.000 is just caused by minor problems

    “its like people cant think for them selfs anymore they hear something and they just repeat it.”

    YES YES YES. YOU ARE THE MESSIAH. BLESS US ALL WITH THOU KNOWLEDGE

  25. grandmarquee1 Says:

    “does microsoft do anything better then FPS (’’looking at the new big hitter’’) gears of war yet another FPS ?No.”

    GoW isn’t a fps it’s 3rd person and when aiming it’s similar to g.r.a.w.

    shaka raise that right arm in the name of ur messiah all hail “SONY” or xenu cause u are out there. u know shaka u almost make want to get a ps3 with all ur facts. wait wait no I don’t (when do preorders for Wii start I can’t wait) shaka u do remember reputable companies actually failing on consoles right? fanboism is a growing problem.

  26. Zac Says:

    ROFL *explode*

  27. Shaka Says:

    ‘ ‘ “does the wii have any originals games for it ?? No!

  28. Marquee Says:

    hey shaka I heard that reistance doesn’t even have online co-op cause it was to hard to do. Yup I will be loving gears of war. The Wii will bring u tons of new things in time.

  29. Shaka Says:

    You heard wrong.

    but what ever flows your boat.

    the wii and xbox 360 both suck hard in hot water compared to the best system ever build Sony PS3.

    now this is something i didnt just heard its facts.

    no online games for wii until next year, means that Call of Duty 3 for wii luanch is not going to be onlineand thats going to suck.
    Fact!

  30. Zac Says:

    Hey Shaka I heard some facts about the PS3 being a ripoff.

  31. Zac Says:

    These are the facts.

  32. Keil Joy Says:

    Nintedo goers. You all are in serious denial. I knew it was over for the Wii when they announced there would be no DVD playback. Now what? Your nintendo Wii is nothin but a high-powered DS.

  33. Zac Says:

    “Nintedo goers. You all are in serious denial. I knew it was over for the Wii when they announced there would be no DVD playback. Now what? Your nintendo Wii is nothin but a high-powered DS.”

    rofl. all over? how is it all over?

    i’m still getting exactly what i want.

  34. Kaiser Soze Says:

    “Nintedo goers. You all are in serious denial. I knew it was over for the Wii when they announced there would be no DVD playback. Now what? Your nintendo Wii is nothin but a high-powered DS.

  35. Marquee Says:

    Nintedo goers. You all are in serious denial. I knew it was over for the Wii when they announced there would be no DVD playback. Now what? Your nintendo Wii is nothin but a high-powered DS.

    ok for starters I believe this only has to do with movies so what nintendo is keeping there system a gaming console. who doesn’t have a dvd player? Said that u acting as if the DS is bad or something, even if it would be high-powered DS like u say, then ur also telling me it’s the best selling sytem.

    The Wii put preorders up on Amazon the other day and it was sold out in 2-3 hrs. hmm yeah they sure seemed doomed. I love sony fanboi’s u guys probably think sony exploding batteries is also good news.

  36. marquee Says:

    oh yeah almost forgot

    “Marquee Says:
    September 14th, 2006 at 7:03 pm

    hey shaka I heard that reistance doesn’t even have online co-op cause it was to hard to do. ”

    “Shaka Says:
    September 14th, 2006 at 7:14 pm

    You heard wrong.

    but what ever flows your boat.”

    Actually I did not hear wrong u can go over to 1up and watch the videocast where they actually sit down with the developer and bursts shaka’s bubble. please do more research b4 posting. shit I know more about the console that u protary as a god.

    Also ur gonna love this shaka

    HD DVD now has the backing of Universal Studios Home Entertainment, Warner Home Video, Paramount Pictures Home Entertainment, HBO, New Line Home Entertainment and The Weinstein Company.

    http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/5647/53/

    oh snap!

  37. Shaka Says:

    hd dvd is just a complete joke.
    only 15gb per layer ?? what a joke.

    it’s all about Blu-Ray !! baby 25gb per layer, now thats reall next gen. the perfect format for the real high def. 1080p.

    and only the PS3 can do REAL high def. 1080p.

    by the way it has already been discused Blu-Ray has tons more support then hd-dvd.

  38. Shaka Says:

    ‘ ‘ what nintendo is
    keeping there system a gaming console. ‘ ‘

    nitnendo shot them self in the foot right there.

    1st they say its all about gaming we dont care about nothing else( big stab for xbox 360 being a multi midea, and PS3 play Blu-Ray ect.)

    yet they have plans to sell a internet browser for the wii just like the n-ds ??

    what ?? a internet browser for wii? wasnt nintendo all about gaming then?

    they easily contradict them self’s.

    yet another negative point i can easily find about nintendo but nobody seems to realise or make such a big deal out of it.

  39. Emerald Says:

    “yet they have plans to sell a internet browser for the wii just like the n-ds ??
    what ?? a internet browser for wii? wasnt nintendo all about gaming then?
    they easily contradict them self’s.”
    Prehaps that’s because- Oh yes, Nintendo said that the Wii is about bringing non-gamers into the gaming market. So in order to do this, they’re going to have to include things(Like Wii channels) that bring non-gamers in.

    “yet another negative point i can easily find about nintendo but nobody seems to realise or make such a big deal out of it.”
    Noone cares because your points are horridly written and often based on lies. >_>

  40. Shaka Says:

    Yeah for that a hard drive is very nesesary which isnt included in the wii, beacuase it will cost them money and it will not make them the 200$ profit they are going to make now.

    nintendo is making money out of you since day one.
    basucally selling a a product for 250$ when it isnt worth the 250$.

    rip-off.

  41. Zac Says:

    Shaka, since you’re an expert, why don’t you proove all that you’re saying.

    Go on. Give us some links, some EVIDENCE.

  42. Emerald Says:

    “Yeah for that a hard drive is very nesesary which isnt included in the wii, beacuase it will cost them money and it will not make them the 200$ profit they are going to make now.”
    Ah foolish Shaka. Nintendo isn’t making a $200 profit, and a Hard Drive isn’t neccissary. A Hard drive will just make the Wii consume more power, be noiser, and eb bigger, not to mention more expensive.

    “nintendo is making money out of you since day one.
    basucally selling a a product for 250$ when it isnt worth the 250$.
    rip-off. ”
    The only rip-off here is the PS3/no rumble in the PS3 controller.

  43. grandmarquee1 Says:

    Shaka I love how u just ignore my “FACTS” and start talking about some other shit.

  44. doom Says:

    Why include a harddrive when you can sell it later for even more money?

    Gotta love the big N guys:P

    ms too btw muaha

  45. Emerald Says:

    You can’t add a harddrive to a system later, unless you have an expansion port- Which the Wii does not.

  46. doom Says:

    Not even a harddrive?

    that makes no sense, because then nintendogs wouldnt make money on that, and they always make money on propieritary addons which the consumers never really need…

    Somethings rotten in the state of japan…

  47. Emerald Says:

    Because Nintendo’s always made money on add-ons- Oh wait, that’s Sony. >_>

  48. doom Says:

    Sorry I’m confused here, name me a few addons on playstation 1 or 2 that I had to buy in order to play games?

    I can only name one: the memory card
    … but then again I’m sure you found the playstation cussion, cd cleaner ™, backlights, stickers and T-shirts all equally neccecary propieritary materials..

  49. Emerald Says:

    Guitar, Dance Pad, Microphone, Beatpad, Mini Uzi, Skateboard, and EyeToy, off the top of my head.

  50. doom Says:

    But those wheren’t required to play games, and those that where where actually given with the game. like eyetoy, or the online adapter, guitar whatever.

    It’s a choice, to play one of those few games for the heck of it, but it’s not like you cannot play 50% of the next library if you do not upgrade. Like for example xbox360’s 2 versions: 1 doesnt have hdvd. Very silly imho since it will split the market and impede the developers of using the hddvd format since it wont have as many customers as standard dvd… but I’m sure ms thought about it on a longer term … rofl

    Anyway nintendo is bad too. MY point: made

  51. Emerald Says:

    “But those wheren’t required to play games, and those that where where actually given with the game. like eyetoy, or the online adapter, guitar whatever.”
    The Guitar/Dancepad/Beatpad/EyeToy were all packaged- But all were made $30 or more expensive.

    “It’s a choice, to play one of those few games for the heck of it, but it’s not like you cannot play 50% of the next library if you do not upgrade. Like for example xbox360’s 2 versions: 1 doesnt have hdvd. Very silly imho since it will split the market and impede the developers of using the hddvd format since it wont have as many customers as standard dvd… but I’m sure ms thought about it on a longer term … rofl”
    I agree, as I never have liked the “Two different versions, one core and one deluxe” model. However, it’s not that bad- You can upgrade at a later time if oyu don’t have the money right away.

    “Anyway nintendo is bad too”
    Explain please.

  52. doom Says:

    ”The Guitar/Dancepad/Beatpad/EyeToy were all packaged- But all were made $30 or more expensive.”

    Ofcourse they ask money for plastic, everybody does that nowadays.

    God I love the old free-plastics days.

    But the add-ons ps1 and ps2 (and p3) have aren’t neccesary for the other 99,9% of games available. It’s just a gimmick, it’s a choice, like the free internet thing. Unlike other examples in my head. Like the silly rumble addon on N64, remote for dvd playback on xbox, dvd addon for hd playback for 360, the silly gameboy colouriiish addons of nintendo when they still had the power to terrrorize the handheld market out of their monopolistic seat. Take for instance the sega megadrive or 32x and probably another bucketload of their crap they made.

    Sony had none of this, I mean: nothing that MADE you upgrade, just the memory card. (which I find already a rotten thing to do muha! Power to the people! or not)

    Anyway my comment about the budget vs normal package isnt about the socialist thing, it will put up a biiig barrier for devs.

    You see, the playstation3 got a cheape.. lol I almost said cheap, the ps3 got 2 different packages too with 2 different pricetags, but both versions will play the standard. That way all games will make full use of the maximum. With xbox360 however, a portion of people will buy the budget version, the developers will know this and will go for profit maximalisation (doh?) and stay with the dvd. Thus effectively limiting, or downgrading if you will, the system specs to the budget version. It wasnt a smart move from bill, wherever he may be in his ethereal haunted gheist form.

    ”Explain please. ”

    For me to know, for you to ask!

  53. doom Says:

    Oh yes and pay-for-internet xbox-live ofcourse. Gets funnier everytime I hear it.

  54. Emerald Says:

    It’s not crazy to pay $5 a month for XBox Live- It’s a quality servace.
    While I’d like it to be free, it’s understadable considering the hosting costs and whatnot.

  55. doom Says:

    different strokes I guess

    oops I did it again!

  56. Shaka Says:

    ‘ ‘ It’s not crazy to pay $5 a month for XBox Live- It’s a quality servace.
    While I’d like it to be free, it’s understadable considering the hosting costs and whatnot. ‘ ‘

    this is agree look at the service on the n-ds its pathetic it only supports what 4 players.

    this is how cheap nintendo are they want you to buy an extra wi-fi adapter for the n-ds if you want to play the damn games online !!!

    what the hell ? sounds like xbox live to me which pretty much means if you dont pay you will not play your games you already bought in a system you already bought.

    paying for playing online games is really stupid.

  57. doom Says:

    I agree.

    Either you buy a game, or you rent one, with those retarded online fees. But obliging players to pay anyway when they want to play online is just pure highwayrobbery.

    Maybe ps2 isnt as advanced in internet (yet) as microsoft, AT LEAST IT’S FREE! + It doesnt make me go on the still dodgy internet with my bank account. God that’s soo risky.

  58. Emerald Says:

    “this is agree look at the service on the n-ds its pathetic it only supports what 4 players.”
    8 Players, shaka, and it’s on a FREE servace.

    “this is how cheap nintendo are they want you to buy an extra wi-fi adapter for the n-ds if you want to play the damn games online !!!”
    Shaka, you’ve said this three times and it will not make this any more true. You only have to buy the adapter if you don’t allready have Wi-Fi.

    “what the hell ? sounds like xbox live to me which pretty much means if you dont pay you will not play your games you already bought in a system you already bought.”
    See above.

    “paying for playing online games is really stupid. ”
    Not for quality servace, which Sony has yet to understand. “Yeah, lets let every developer run their OWN server! Oh, and also, lets have the entire servace be set apart for each game! A interconnected servace is stupid”

    That’s pretty much why PS2 online sucks.

  59. doom Says:

    ”Not for quality servace, which Sony has yet to understand. “Yeah, lets let every developer run their OWN server! Oh, and also, lets have the entire servace be set apart for each game! A interconnected servace is stupid

  60. Emerald Says:

    “I think that’s a much better thing, much more free-spirited, and less money-cashing. Keep in mind that not every xbox owner makes use of xbox life. I know I wouldnt (not when I got a pc which can play prettier games free online with mouse support)”
    Yes, but it has amny advanced features that Sony Online doesnt, like Gamer tags for user identification,
    Avatars, or gamer pictures, for association with gamer tags, Mottos for display on gamer profiles, Gamer zones which represents your gaming style and influences player matchmaking (Recreation, Pro, Family, Underground), Game achievements are listed with gamer tags and can be compared with friends’ achievements, Reputation rating which is voted on by other players who decide to either prefer or avoid another player, Gamerscores which are a total of a player’s achievement points, Friends list, which is a list of a player’s chosen friends, Recent player list, which lists the last 50 players one user has played with, Xbox Live Marketplace content, Enhanced matchmaking using cumulative gamerscore, reputation, location/language profile and skill level.

    “I think sony’s alternative is the best thing around. No charge, free choice.”
    XBox live is also free choice, but unlike Sony’s product, theirs offers more advanced features than you could ever find on the PS2.

  61. doom Says:

    again you are passing the argument that sony is free and xbox costs hard cash.

  62. Emerald Says:

    Why yes, but when said service is not nearly as good then it’s not a very good argument is it?

  63. Shaka Says:

    In the long run the xbox 360 actually cost alot more then PS3 and thats just adding a very basic thing like playing online games.

    400$ xbox 360 + 50$ for online play. after the generation of your being a xbox 360 owner mmm 6 years you will end up paying.

    400$ + 300$ ( for 6 years of online service alone) = 700$.

    there you have it sounds kool at 1st cheaper then PS3, but in the long run the xbox 360 is such a big rip off just like the wii.

    i owned a xbox this generation but i will never pay for playing games online like i said, no matter how you put it.

    paying for playing your games online is STUPID!

    whats next charge you 1$ for each time you turn on your console.

  64. Emerald Says:

    You know shaka, you seem to ignore my argument that paying online is good if the service is good enough to warrent it. Which in the case of XBox Live, it is.

  65. doom Says:

    ” it is. ”

    Opinion, not viable.

    Purrrr, we-need-free-internet-because…

    internet is free to begin with. Anyone who pays money for internet connections doesnt get it, or is playing a morppg (which can justify it in some peoples (hopeless) cases)

  66. Emerald Says:

    “internet is free to begin with.”
    Yes, because no-one PAYS to get internet service..
    Oh wait. You do. THat’s how you get a CONNECTION IN THE FIRST PLACE.

    “Anyone who pays money for internet connections doesnt get it”
    Opinion, not viable. But even so, It makes sense if there are server and other costs to justafy it.

    “or is playing a morppg (which can justify it in some peoples (hopeless) cases)”
    Opinion. Not viable.

  67. Shaka Says:

    ‘ ‘ paying online is good if the service is good ‘ ‘ .

    No like i said no matter how you put it, no its never ok to pay for online play, no never.

    if you let them open that door then they will wanna charge like 5$ for a horse armor remenber. no not gonna happend never.

  68. Emerald Says:

    “No like i said no matter how you put it, no its never ok to pay for online play, no never.”
    Then how come millions of people are?

    “if you let them open that door then they will wanna charge like 5$ for a horse armor remenber. no not gonna happend never”
    It allready HAS happened.

  69. doom Says:

    ”i owned a xbox this generation but i will never pay for playing games online like i said, no matter how you put it.”

    I Second that dear old chap. The guy who pays for what is offered free, needs to seriously reconsider his brains.

  70. Kaiser Soze Says:

    “The guy who pays for what is offered free, needs to seriously reconsider his brains.”

    How about a guy who buys a way too expensive PS3 when you more or less can get the same thing on the 360?

  71. Kaiser Soze Says:

    Doom. “internet is free to begin with” That depends in which part of the world you live in. Where I come from you have to pay at least $30 a month. More common is $50 a month

  72. Emerald Says:

    “I Second that dear old chap. The guy who pays for what is offered free, needs to seriously reconsider his brains.”
    Unless the free internet service is pure crap.

  73. Shaka Says:

    ‘ ‘ How about a guy who buys a way too expensive PS3 when you more or less can get the same thing on the 360? ‘ ‘

    If you see everything thats included in the 599$ tag im more then sold,its totally worth it.

    and the best games ofcourse.

    400$ for xbox 360 + online play ?? no 1080p,no 60 hard drive? not compatible with xbox games and the list can go on.

    wii i dont need to explain the price tag and the prices of the add-on speak for them selfs about the errogance of nintendo.

  74. Kaiser Soze Says:

    “If you see everything thats included in the 599$ tag im more then sold,its totally worth it.”

    And what is that, the betamax? I mean, Blu-ray player?

  75. Shaka Says:

    Blu-Ray inst a near as the beatmax. actually the real betamax is hd-dvd.

    Sony was the ony who released betamax players.
    toshiba is the only one who has released hd-dvd players.

    Blu-Ray FTW.
    hd-dvd R.I.P.

  76. Emerald Says:

    “Blu-Ray inst a near as the beatmax. actually the real betamax is hd-dvd.
    Sony was the ony who released betamax players.
    toshiba is the only one who has released hd-dvd players.
    Blu-Ray FTW.
    hd-dvd R.I.P. ”
    Oh wait, Toshiba, Pioneer, Aiwa and NEC also made and sold Betamax. Oop, shaka is owned by logic. HD-DVD Players have also sold 33% more than Blu-Ray players.

    Beta was also more expensive, and had more storage capacity. Like Blu-Ray! It was also introduced by Sony. Like Blu-Ray!

  77. Kaiser Soze Says:

    Do you still uses your mini disc player Shaka?

    Shakas reply: Of course. The stupid Mp3 players sucks big time. Fuck apples Ipod

    Mini disc FTW
    Ipod R.I.P.

  78. Shaka Says:

    The big selling point is hollywood and Blu-Ray has 80% and hd-dvd has only universal. hd-dvd is a joke and its going to die.

  79. doom Says:

    I read really really really a lot about hd ”vs” blue ray.. and I think blu ray is gonna be TNB as well. The pc consumer market on the boards is also important you know. Probably most important, though people always like to diss the pc’s huge share in almost any hardware consumer developments.

    and btw…

    ”Beta was also more expensive, and had more storage capacity. Like Blu-Ray! It was also introduced by Sony. Like Blu-Ray! ”

    That isn’t research shaka, stop ranting and get some sleep please:)

  80. doom Says:

    shaka = emerald, I somehow confuse these two constantly hehehe

  81. doom Says:

    ”How about a guy who buys a way too expensive PS3 when you more or less can get the same thing on the 360?”

    Why buy next gen consoles at all? WIII is here to rock your world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D:D::D:D:D:D:D:D

    I love wiii! wii is what makes me love liife! I’m not too old to play wii, no one iis! Wii is fun for the whole famillii! I love everything wii! I will buy all pheriipherals and buy every game on wiii! I will use the remote to play games and it wiill not suck! At times I feel sad, irresponsible, alone and irrevocably down, but then I go Wiiiiii!

    I love wiiiii,

    The Sweet Wii Boy

    I want to die, kill me please

  82. Jim2k Says:

    doom: “he pc consumer market on the boards is also important you know”

    You mean, like, Microsoft? See, Microsfot can completely ban Blu-ray from Windows XP/Vista by simply banning the Blu-ray drivers from the operating system.

  83. Emerald Says:

    I love Doom’s rants. They’re almost as fanboyish, hilarious, and as based on crap as shaka’s is.
    Shaka’ll have to be careful, if he doesn’t keep up the pace Doom’ll over take him as the bind Sony Fanboy.

  84. Shaka Says:

    ‘ ‘ You mean, like, Microsoft? See, Microsfot can completely ban Blu-ray from Windows XP/Vista by simply banning the Blu-ray drivers from the operating system. ‘ ‘

    Vista supports Blu-Ray.
    HA!

  85. Emerald Says:

    ” Vista supports Blu-Ray.
    HA!”
    Source? Even if this is true, Microsoft could pull support for Blu-Ray at any time.

  86. Shaka Says:

    Source? LMAO
    microsoft knows Blu-Ray will win.
    why shoot your self in the leg,there?

  87. doom Says:

    ”You mean, like, Microsoft? See, Microsfot can completely ban Blu-ray from Windows XP/Vista by simply banning the Blu-ray drivers from the operating system. ”

    They could in theory do that, but more likely they will ask money from sony like they cut ‘deals’ with toshiba and ericsson.

    HATE the microsoft!

  88. doom Says:

    Indeed, most tech analysts also think Blu ray will win, No I won’t revisit the sources I read 2 months back for a full day to get knowledge. Just get the same and get your dummy head from joystick.com.. or the ludicrous posts of this site for that matter.

  89. Emerald Says:

    “microsoft knows Blu-Ray will win.
    why shoot your self in the leg,there?”
    Still no source. Invalidate’D!

    “Indeed, most tech analysts also think Blu ray will win, No I won’t revisit the sources I read 2 months back for a full day to get knowledge.”
    So how do we know this is true? We don’t. Therefore, you can’t use that as a basis. Invalidate’D!

  90. Shaka Says:

    Emerald is in denial, i dont need to post no links everyone knows Blu-Ray will win and thats why microsoft will always support Blu-Ray on vista.

  91. Emerald Says:

    Yet you do. Until you do, you can’t back up your claims and thus not prove your point. So not only do any and all of your claims and staments hae no merit, but Microsoft could indeed pull Blu Ray support.

  92. doom Says:

    stay in wonderland Emerald:
    -wii has nothing
    -xbox has hd-dvd IF you pay 200 extra (how looool)
    -ps3 has bluray, which is the format with the biggest storage capacity (And betamax comparisons wont work since pc consumers will make the difference as well as the vast ps3 userbase in a few years)

    Silly guy

  93. Shaka Says:

    I agree 100% with doom.

    armin=anti-sony like always.

    ‘ ‘ So not only do any and all of your claims and staments hae no merit, but Microsoft could indeed pull Blu Ray support. ‘ ‘

    So why not doit like right now you know they are supporting hd-dvd.

    ‘ ‘ the choice is where they can get the most for their money, for now, that certainly isn’t the PS3. ‘ ‘

    oh yeah thats why what wii that wont even play ur dvd or play online games……….

    oh how about xbox 360 400$ a pop for pay for online play you totally fail anti-sony boy.

    armin is also in denial they cant see the big picture here.

  94. Shaka Says:

    See that last stament looks alittle bit more mature if you ask me.

    Blu-Ray isnt just for movies,ok.
    Blu-Ray is needed, a next gen. format is needed for a trutly next gen. system like the PS3.

  95. doom Says:

    ”Shaka: What if gamers aren’t interested in the Blu-ray or HD-DVD drives? Then the Xbox360 is the best choice, since you have the option of adding the drive later on.”

    What if gamers ARE interested.. ajjjj hehehe.

  96. Emerald Says:

    Shaka, considering that developers can’t fully use the 8 GBs available for the DVD yet, I doubt that Blu Ray’s space can do anything significant.
    Yet again, I’m trying to use logic with shaka, so this dose of reality falls on deaf ears.

  97. Shaka Says:

    Lets see Emerald .

    God of War a 2 layer dvd, yes and its a PS2 games not PS3.
    halo 2 another dual layer game and yes that game for xbox.
    GTA-SA filled the entire one layer DVD and thats adding some serious compression tech.

    xbox 360 game devs already having problems with the space on dual layer dvd’s.

    Resistance a PS3 launch game 22gb big.

    xbox 360 is not next gen. with that weak dvd format.

  98. Marquee Says:

    Shaka remind me again why can’t xbox dev’s ship more than 1 disk?

  99. Emerald Says:

    Yet, Shaka, GTA used a single layer disk. Oh wow, 4.7 GBs. It’s not like a dual layer has double that.

    “xbox 360 game devs already having problems with the space on dual layer dvd’s.”
    Source?

    “Resistance a PS3 launch game 22gb big.”
    Yet the graphical improvement can’t justify the extra 22 GBs. I’ve seen the same graphics on a 360 game.

  100. Shaka Says:

    Hey its stupid to say games arent going to get bigger then 8gb in the next say 2-3 years.

    Blu-Ray is needed beacuase the PS3 will last 10 years.

  101. doom Says:

    Emerald is truly a boring cunt. Just plain boring like a pc always giving ERROR message.

  102. Emerald Says:

    “Blu-Ray is needed beacuase the PS3 will last 10 years.”
    $ony said teh PS2 would last 10 years. We all see how well that worked out. >_>

    “Emerald is truly a boring cunt. Just plain boring like a pc always giving ERROR message.”
    Strange, people always say that about $ony fanboys, being as they choose to ignore certian facts, statements, and general knowlage. It could also be because they bring up the same points over and over and over. Like a $ony disk read ERROR, or a real Japanese warrior in a real Japanese battle attacking a giant crab monster at it’s weak point for MASSIVE DAMGE over and over again.

    Or it’s just that you two are insufferable asswipes.

  103. Zac Says:

    “cheap bastards and bunch of liars!”

    lol no one lied there. it’s being released on both. check your facts noob.

    A console lasting for 10 years doesn’t mean anything. It’ll last as long as they produce and sell them.

    As far as i’m concerned, a console lasts if you can still play it. Which is all my consoles. They still play well, I still have fun on them, so they’ve lasted.

    All this bullsh*t about the ps2 lasting 10 years doesn’t make any difference to anything. Sales don’t mean anything. As long as the consumer is happy, and as long as the company makes a profit, nothing else matters.

    Before you come up with “ps3 is teh futor” Shaka, remember that not everyone loves sony like you, and they’ll buy a console on their own decision, not yours. The ps3 is NOT the future. It’s the future for the people who buy it, just the same as the Wii is the future for the people who by a Wii. Technology doesn’t mean future. Technology progresses with time, but time is not dependant on technology.

  104. Shaka Says:

    Zac=anti-Sony bot?

  105. Zac Says:

    “Zac=anti-Sony bot?”

    What a way to ignore all I said. Idiot.

  106. Emerald Says:

    “Oh yeah thats good to judge beacuase you dont even know the Japanese history behind this, you another tool of the internet arent you armin !!”
    Behind the “actual japanese battles” with “giant CRAB MONSTERS”? I don’t have a degree in Japanese history, but I’m pretty sure nothing like that happened. Ever.\

    “PS2 outsells the xbox 360. this baby is easily going to last 10 years.”
    Only in Japan where the XBox has never done so well. So it’s not at all surprising there.

    “#

    Sony does cares about their costumers not delay the new zelda to put it on launch with a new system or wants you to pay for online play. cheap bastards and bunch of liars!”
    Yes they “care” with a system costing more than any other system to date and $75 games.

  107. Shaka Says:

    zac u moron.
    ‘ ‘ Shaka, remember that not everyone loves sony like you, ‘ ‘

    You should know Sony is the most trusted company in the world. so i know im not alone of this one.

    ‘ ‘ I don’t have a degree in Japanese history, but I’m pretty sure nothing like that happened. Ever. ‘ ‘

    Like i said another ignorant that doesnt even know whats hes talking about. just does everything to sound kool.

  108. Emerald Says:

    “You should know Sony is the most trusted company in the world. so i know im not alone of this one.”

    *The Wordl bursts out laughing*
    Not only is this claim unfounded, but I have found a link(http://blogs.msdn.com/ivan_joseph/archive/2006/03/03/543312.aspx) that disproves your claims that you clearly pulled out of your ass.

    “Like i said another ignorant that doesnt even know whats hes talking about. just does everything to sound kool. ”
    No shaka, it’s called RESARCH AND BALSIC KNOWLAGE!
    Not only have there been no Giant Crab Monsters in the history of the world, but nothing of the sort EVER happened in Japan.

    Seriously, do you READ what you write?

  109. Shaka Says:

    Lets see Sony being the most trusted brand in the world has been proven already.

    Sony Scores in Brand Trust Survey
    http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com

    _content&task=view&id=2632&Itemid=2

    Sony trounces MSFT & Nintendo in brand trust survey
    http://www.joystiq.com/2006/03/30/sony-trounces

    -msft-and-nintendo-in-brand-trust-survey/
    (from your pals are joystiq u know where all the Sony-haters like to hang out)

    Sony, Most Trusted Brand
    http://www.smartofficenews.com.au/Distributors/?article=/

    Distributors/News/B7K2U3S7

    Sony is the best i told you, so get ur facts str8 1st before u post ingorant posts Emerald.

  110. Emerald Says:

    Idiot. Link one says it is ranked third in electronic companies, Link 2 proves that Sony still is #3, and link 3 repeats that fact yet again.

    The Forrester research is also based on the entire company, not just SCE. So Sony naturaly has a upper hand in trust from the beggening, as they nade electronic devices before. However, Forrester did not rate SCE indipedently, so the results are innacurate for SCE because it is coupled with its parent company.

    Godd god shaka, read what you link to.

  111. Shaka Says:

    Emerald=Owned ?

    ^-^

  112. Zac Says:

    “You should know Sony is the most trusted company in the world. so i know im not alone of this one.”

    *The Wordl bursts out laughing*
    Not only is this claim unfounded, but I have found a link(http://blogs.msdn.com/ivan_joseph/archive/2006/03/03/543312.aspx) that disproves your claims that you clearly pulled out of your ass.

    HAHAHAHAHAHA! Shaka, YOU got owned. YOU did. See you can’t even reply to what Emerald said.

  113. ЖĂM Says:

    Ps3 just made one big mistake.. i happen to know some hackers that can kill peoples pc’s OVER xfire, knowing that there is always a way to get past things. maybe there is a way to hack into peoples ps3’s and have a little fun by screwing up thier system.

    Some people thinking that they are going to find the person that did that, WRONG, people that do this stuff change thier IP every day, so you cant get caught. If it does come out for the ps3, first things im going to encrypt, kill a couple of sites, then find a way to hack into this xfire and get into they ps3 system. maybe send something to wreck the harddrive or corrupt the downloads.

    They made one big mistake, because they are pretty damn blind to know that there are hackers on xfire.

    if it does come true, you might just be one of the victims of me or some of my other freinds >.

  114. Zac Says:

    Haha. Gogo Amatory.

  115. ЖĂM Says:

    i swear man its like they are not even thinking

    just like tony montana says about little havana but except its about the xfire and ps3 issue

    ps3’s choice to use xfire is like one big Pûssy
    just waiting to get fûcked.

  116. Zac Says:

    “ps3’s choice to use xfire is like one big Pûssy
    just waiting to get fûcked.”

    rofl!

    let’s see where things head…

  117. ЖĂM Says:

    ja if it does, i got my example of dishing out some pain over the net hrhrhrhr

  118. Dave Says:

    Blu-Ray will win this war!

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