Michael Pachter Blaming PS3 For The GTA 4 Delay
03 Aug
Posted by Erich Jurgens as Action, PlayStation 3, Xbox360
Gaming analyst Michael Pachter gave his theory on the cause of Grand Theft Auto 4’s delay to 2008. He
quickly pointed a finger at Sony, claiming that Rockstar didn’t realize what they were getting themselves into with the PlayStation 3 hardware, and that Sony basically said that if they delayed the PS3 version, the 360 version had to be delayed as well.
“We think it is likely that the Rockstar team had difficulty in building an exceptionally complicated game for the PS3, and failed to recognise how far away from completion the game truly was until recently. We think it is also likely that Take-Two had a contractual commitment to Sony that it would not favour competitor Microsoft by launching the Xbox 360 version of GTA IV prior to launching the PS3 version, and believe that any delay of the PS3 version necessitated a delay of the Xbox 360 version.”
As of now the only official word we have on the delay is that it was due to technical reasons, and that’s far too broad to blame solely on the PlayStation 3. It should also be taken into consideration that the Xbox 360 is the technically inferior of the two consoles.
Tags: Action, PlayStation 3, Xbox360
19 Responses
The Wicker Man
August 3rd, 2007 at 7:18 pm
1well, alteast I can stop seeing sony fans blaming this on 360 fans! LOL!
NECKRYS
August 3rd, 2007 at 8:01 pm
2well this is a relieve at least now we have someone to blame.
Anuban
August 3rd, 2007 at 8:51 pm
3Well so far the so called technically inferior Xbox 360 has been kicking the teeth in of the PS3 and the games certainly on the whole look better and have been much better received on the 360 than on the PS3 … and let is not forget the memory limitation which can affect texture quality as demonstrated by Epic with Gears of War. So please don’t try and blame MS … and please don’t start the PS3 is a better gaming console stuff up because so far that has not been proven and until it really is no one should be saying that stuff … especially not a site that is just supposed to report the facts.
If anything what the analyst says makes perfect sense given what other devs have said about developing on the PS3 and how games that are both platforms look worse and perform more poorly on the PS3. A good example is how Madden and APF players can enjoy 60 fps on the 360 but only 30 fps on the PS3.
The Wicker Man
August 4th, 2007 at 4:44 am
4Im getting mixed signals lol. On the ps3 comment u said the 360 was a junkbox. Well, the 360 has better game’s coming out for it. MGS4 will go to the 360, I know it will and I dont even care. I felt the series went down hill after MGS1.. yeah it looks cool but not the same as MGS1. The 360 is basically a computer for fps,racing,sports,(somewhat rpgs),action. Where the ps3 is mainly RPG game’s with some fps and some racing and some sports.
Yeah they both share a good number of Exe’s. The xbox 360 has better exe’s if I were a 360 gamer. If I had to choice..
Halo 3 > Killzone 2 (I couldnt even get past the 1st level.. kill zone 1 was that bad.
Bioshock > Lair ( not my type of game)
GTA = GTA (it should be good on both platforms)
World In conflict,Halo Wars.. The list keeps growing.
What made me turn away from SONY is that they started to start sucking. You don’t need a blu ray disc to play game’s. This is proof.. so many sony fans said it was the 360 fault for gta being pushed back. Yeah u sell meh 20-50 million world wife, plus when a family watche’s movies they have their own set up. Wasnt their a rating that games dont even care for the movie add on’s.
The Wicker Man
August 4th, 2007 at 4:49 am
5Also, in my brain the ps3 is a great deal. Half the cost of blu ray stand alones and u get a game machine. Im sorry that’s a great deal. But, people are like my dad. They look at it as being a video game machine and that’s it. * im 20* so u dont visualize a 12 year old, he wouldnt care. He hates VC with a passion.
Many older people around mid 30’s and up think just like that. My theory is they didnt have it as kids. So they re jealous of not having it. Like my moms boy friend, use to bitch I played video games/pc games. Im like wtf? You watch movies all day. I consider watching tv and playing games are the same.
I was living with my dad, his wife said.. You can watch tv but u cant play video games. My bro 27 now yelled out” it’s the samething! ” Some reason older people look at this negative all the time. Sony is smart doing this to win the format war, but hurt it’s sales when the 360 can do the samething for gaming for half the price.
SasukeX
August 4th, 2007 at 9:21 am
6@ Anuban: PS3 is ACTUALLY technically superior but the difference is that it is harder to make games on that console. But if used in its high capabilities it can go further than XBox 360 on Gaming Graphics.
GTA suffered that problem at PS3. If they were more familiar with the PS3 technology it wouldn’t have been a problem. But nowadays better things are the hardest to achieve. And a great game is hard to make on PS3.
Anuban
August 4th, 2007 at 3:28 pm
7So far there is no evidence that the PS3 is technically superior … it has not shown it up until this point and you can make any excuses you want. The fact is that so far the 360 has been superior. Now whether or not that will hold remains to be seen but until that happens it is just not accurate to make such a statement.
Evander
August 4th, 2007 at 5:21 pm
8Everytime I go to the store I don’t see than many games out for PS3, and none that aren’t too interesting or already on the 360. Its no surprise to me that I always see one or more in stock at every store that carries consoles.
We still have yet to see these incredible capabilities that the PS3 has. But if its so hard to create games for the PS3, will we ever see them? EA for example always seems to rush out their games. They don’t really seem to want to take the time to unleash the capabilities of the PS3. Only Rockstar seems to want to take the time to create a fully finished game.
Until I see GTA4 on the PS3, right now I’m not impressed.
The Wicker Man
August 5th, 2007 at 3:47 am
9The ps3 will lose this next gen battle. The 360 did all of the right moves. Even being MS(the richest Company) didnt get cocky. Sony this gen got cocky,” we sold over 100 million ps2’s” so dev’s will eat out of r hands.
Assassin creed
ut3
GTA 4.. all were suppose to be PS3 only games. The guy didnt take it seriously and they jumped on board with MS. When you have a machine that can 1. Spit out HD games graphics, 2. upgrade to hd dvd.. not forcing the
people to buy but nice to have.. 3. The average gamer is broke, u can buy the wii and a 360 for the same proce of a ps3.
The Wicker Man
August 5th, 2007 at 3:48 am
10This reminds me of the xbox vs ps2. The xbox was way way stronger and people were the ps2 has better games. Now its flipped. The 360 has so many pc/360 titles and titles u can get on 360 that u can get on ps3 too. What’s awesome is that its 200 dollars cheaper.
The Wicker Man
August 6th, 2007 at 3:48 am
11Let me rephrase this.. I completely didnt make sense.
I remember hearing how much stronger the 360 is over the PS2. When push comes to shove, people dont care mainly for the graphics. Now, Im a graphic’s whore.. but’s hard to say that cuz any game that looks like hl2 or doom 3 will always look good to me. You barely tell a difference between xbox/ps2.. the xbox loads the screen faster.
People stuck with the ps2 cuz of the ps1, and how successful it was. Now, the xbox did really good in sales too, but it was kinda to late. The 360 is selling really good, already hit in the 10-11 millions. Now, the war has flipped of the hardcore power of system’s. The ps3 basically has the same ports as the 360.. this doesnt help sales at all.
If u can get a console that has pc titles/ more EXE’s and developer’s admitting they worked harder on ur console doesnt help either. So far the 360 has more EXE’s then sony and stole most of theirs that well made them sony. I see a nice battle between these 2
SasukeX
August 6th, 2007 at 11:48 am
12Superiority is based by hardware and not games.
And the battle is still not over. PS3 price is way too high for people to buy. When the price drops I think things will change a lot. Even XBox 360 Elite costs a lot and people buy more the Premium rather than Elite.
Just now, the PS3 problem is the price. Sony never thought people would complain about price but they actually did that. Winning the previous generation made this company too sure of themselves and they tried to gain more money because they thought PS3 would sell like PS2.
I see, Microsoft is the most experienced in the market.
The Wicker Man
August 6th, 2007 at 6:50 pm
13well, Sasukex.. Theyre millions of fans just waiting on the ps3 to drop the price. And millions are waiting for the bugs to be worked out and better titles to come out. I was reading something, how do u expect to sell ur new console if ur releasing games like god of war 2?
The xbox is done, no more titles but sports games. Now, xbox 1 fans will be forced to upgrade now.. now you no excuse bc the 360 can run most of the popular titles. Some say the ps3 is way way stronger than the 360.. yeah but the 360 has better games IMO. It shares many pc games I play. IM more of an Action guy myself. Then again either one is a great buy.. so nobody loses
Mark Antony
August 7th, 2007 at 10:41 am
14360 hav better games? do dey mr wicker well hav u heard of a game called metal gera solid 4? or hav u been asleep 4 de past 2 years?
The Wicker Man
August 11th, 2007 at 7:53 am
15Mark, see there goes another dumb sony fan. God, always pointing the finger to MGS 4 is getting annoying…. really really annoying. Ok? Wow, u have MGS 4.. 360 owners have.
Halo 3/Halo 4 will be out sometime
Took your Exe’s…
devil may cry 4
Assassin Creed
Grand theft Auto 4 LOL .. owned.
Oh? bioshock? 360 and pc only? A great shooter
World in conflict, amazing demo
CNC 3, pretty good single player and online
Halo wars
End Wars
Shadow Run
Counter-strike.. will be having a another version
Gears of War
Gears of war 2
Mass effect
Far cry?!
stranglehold?
Blue Dragon?
rb6 vegas was better?
Pc.. Crysis,Ut3… more exe’s.. Face it, the future is looking good for MS.
….
No, IM not that big a 360 fan. But, I know my number’s.. The 360/pc have better game’s.
NICK
August 13th, 2007 at 11:31 am
16MSGS4 will use all 50 gb of a BD-50 disk. So all you people that say you did not a high capacity disk for gaming are all idiots. And rockstar did publicly criticize xbox 360 for not having enough space. They had to pick and choose what to include, because of the 7gb limit on a dvd.
Frydfysh
September 11th, 2007 at 8:20 am
17Let’s not forget. Most of the demos shown for games that are multi-platform are typically running on the 360 builds. Mercenaries 2 and GTA4 were both shown on the 360 builds and look great.
Monarky
September 11th, 2007 at 9:46 am
18@NICK
Don’t forget UT3 Xbox 360 features the kindergarten version, so X360 BILLION DOLLAR ERROR-71 Cripple Kits, can play this game with the Pros on PC and PS3!
Well only within the Microsoft barbed wire fence with themselves, but at least they can play it(which they’re really good at!
What the Hay! We’d kill ‘em and they’d blame the BDE-71 Cripple Kit crashes on us! LOLz
Did I hear someone murmur Xbox 3Fixty?!?! hehe
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